• 👋 Welcome! If you were registered on Cybertruckownersclub.com as of October 14, 2024 or earlier, you can simply login here with the same username and password as on Cybertruckownersclub.

    If you wish, you can remove your account here.

Europe is making faster cars and better batteries than Tesla

OP
OP
TruckElectric

TruckElectric

Well-known member
First Name
Bryan
Joined
Jun 16, 2020
Threads
609
Messages
2,004
Reaction score
1,493
Location
Texas
Vehicles
Dodge Ram diesel
Occupation
Retired
Country flag
Technology
Tesla Battery Rival Signs Deal to Enter Asian Car Market

By
Aaron Eglitis
March 4, 2021, 11:00 PM CST Updated on March 5, 2021, 6:29 AM CST


  • Marubeni will help Estonia’s Skeleton Technologies expand

  • Deal focuses on super capacitor line that can quickly charge

A Baltic energy storage maker that competes with Tesla Inc will enter the Asian market for electric and hydrogen vehicles through a deal with a Japanese conglomerate.

Skeleton Technologies Group OU signed a deal with Marubeni Corporation, which also made an equity investment in the Estonian company, to expand in the Asian market outside of China and India, it said in a statement.

The deal will focus on the so-called SuperBattery line of super capacitors, light-weight and long-life components that can distribute intensive bursts of power. The product could shore up electrical grid stability and aid electric cars. Skeleton already provides its products for double-decker bus companies, hydrogen trucks and passenger vehicles in Europe.

Skeleton’s super capacitors can be used in hybrid electric vehicles where “Japanese manufacturers are very strong,” Chief Executive Officer Taavi Madiberk said in an interview. They can also be used in fuel cells, he said.

Super capacitors, sometimes also called ultra capacitors, may be in the same position that lithium ion batteries were in 1999, with a strong price drop in the future, he said.

“We have a clear road map how to lower the cost of ultra capacitors by almost 95%,” Madiberk said. The cost could drop from about $5,000 per kilowatt hour to about $300 per kilowatt hour, he said.

Read more: Tesla Rival Sets Out to Banish 160-Year-Old Lead Tech

Tesla, also searching for a breakthrough for electric car batteries, bought Skeleton’s competitor Maxwell Technologies Inc. in 2019.

Skeleton raised 41.3 million euros in Series D financing from existing and new investors, it said in November. Madiberk declined to disclose the size of Marubeni’s equity investment made in the super capacitor maker.

SOURCE: BLOOMBERG
 

FutureBoy

Well-known member
First Name
Reginald
Joined
Oct 1, 2020
Threads
162
Messages
2,764
Reaction score
734
Location
Kirkland WA USA
Vehicles
Toyota Sienna
Occupation
Financial Advisor
Country flag
Super capacitors, sometimes also called ultra capacitors, may be in the same position that lithium ion batteries were in 1999, with a strong price drop in the future, he said.

“We have a clear road map how to lower the cost of ultra capacitors by almost 95%,” Madiberk said. The cost could drop from about $5,000 per kilowatt hour to about $300 per kilowatt hour, he said.
Wait...

So is he saying they are 22 years behind?
 

ldjessee

Well-known member
First Name
Lloyd
Joined
Apr 22, 2020
Threads
7
Messages
557
Reaction score
93
Location
Indiana, USA
Vehicles
Nissan Leaf, MYLR, Kaw 1700 Vaquero
Occupation
Business Intelligence Manager & Analyst
Country flag
Why tack on a new article to a thread started with an article from 6 months ago?
 

firsttruck

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 25, 2020
Threads
124
Messages
1,888
Reaction score
633
Location
mx
Vehicles
none
Country flag
Skeleton’s super capacitors can be used in hybrid electric vehicles where “Japanese manufacturers are very strong,” Chief Executive Officer Taavi Madiberk said in an interview. They can also be used in fuel cells, he said.

Super capacitors, sometimes also called ultra capacitors, may be in the same position that lithium ion batteries were in 1999, with a strong price drop in the future, he said.

“We have a clear road map how to lower the cost of ultra capacitors by almost 95%,” Madiberk said. The cost could drop from about $5,000 per kilowatt hour to about $300 per kilowatt hour, he said.

SOURCE: BLOOMBERG
ultra capacitors future cost down to $300/KwH. That is supposed to be competitive???

Tesla is projecting by 2025
$40/KwH LiFePO4 battery cells
$80/KwH nickel based cells
 

azjohn

Well-known member
First Name
john
Joined
Nov 21, 2019
Threads
10
Messages
297
Reaction score
53
Location
Henry County Virginia
Vehicles
Toyota Tundra
Country flag
I had seen a few videos on Estonia and the company Skeleton, it was pretty impressive. They Estonia had completely rebuilt their infrastructure from the ground up, they were offered old tech to get by but decided not to.

Didn't Elon have plans for a hybrid super capacitor/battery?
 
 
Top