Why is WAYMO so much better than FSD ?

[Jack27]

Went to the Pen state SC game today but we won’t talk about that L ! This was the first time I really used my FSD in “LA Traffic” and super crowded area. I Def had to take over a few times. One was someone making a left turn sticking into my lane a little bit and I definitely waited till the last second to see if it would correct it self and It didn’t. Another was it kind of stuttered with the steering wheel couldn’t get over and missed the street then put me back on the freeway and doubled back.. but the real I guess “confusion” for me is why am I seeing Waymo cars in numbers all around the campus and area self driving alone with Zero issues in large crowds? My truck would have crashed 3 times and these things seem all good with no one inside them?

 

[SeattleBeast]

Google engineering is no joke. They employ the world's top talent. They have a robust security and safety approach that rivals some governments.

 

[Jack27]

Google engineering is no joke. They employ the world's top talent. They have a robust security and safety approach that rivals some governments.

I mean I guess but I thought my boy Elon did also ? I just saw robots and ish doing paper rock scissors

 

[HaulingAss]

Went to the Pen state SC game today but we won’t talk about that L ! This was the first time I really used my FSD in “LA Traffic” and super crowded area. I Def had to take over a few times. One was someone making a left turn sticking into my lane a little bit and I definitely waited till the last second to see if it would correct it self and It didn’t. Another was it kind of stuttered with the steering wheel couldn’t get over and missed the street then put me back on the freeway and doubled back.. but the real I guess “confusion” for me is why am I seeing Waymo cars in numbers all around the campus and area self driving alone with Zero issues in large crowds? My truck would have crashed 3 times and these things seem all good with no one inside them?

Waymo is not better because its strictly geo-fenced to only operate in known areas. It also often locks up and needs help from a remote operator in really easy situations. It's what you would expect from a system that is hard coded. They took a short-cut path to autonomy that is not able to scale to the rest of the world without spending billions on further mapping and training for each specific area they want to operate in. It's a "dumb" system. It can't even go on the Interstate, it just bumbles along on surface streets.

Waymo doesn't miss streets because they are all hard-coded. At least in the few areas Waymo has hard coded and trained on. It's definitely not the future of autonomy in the way that FSD is. Neither are ready for prime time, and Waymo never will unless they adopt a more natural way of driving.

 

[Jack27]

Waymo is not better because its strictly geo-fenced to only operate in known areas. It also often locks up and needs help from a remote operator in really easy situations. It's what you would expect from a system that is hard coded. They took a short-cut path to autonomy that is not able to scale to the rest of the world without spending billions on further mapping and training for each specific area they want to operate in. It's a "dumb" system. It can't even go on the Interstate, it just bumbles along on surface streets.

Waymo doesn't miss streets because they are all hard-coded. At least in the few areas Waymo has hard coded and trained on. It's definitely not the future of autonomy in the way that FSD is. Neither are ready for prime time, and Waymo never will unless they adopt a more natural way of driving.

Great info I knew nothing about!

 

[Sjohnson20]

I used Waymo in Los Angeles 3 times last week and I really liked it. I think it’s great for quick trips around town.

It’s just that Tesla is approaching self driving in a different way. We still don’t have a winner yet. Both systems have limitations.

 

[cyberos]

Went to the Pen state SC game today but we won’t talk about that L ! This was the first time I really used my FSD in “LA Traffic” and super crowded area. I Def had to take over a few times. One was someone making a left turn sticking into my lane a little bit and I definitely waited till the last second to see if it would correct it self and It didn’t. Another was it kind of stuttered with the steering wheel couldn’t get over and missed the street then put me back on the freeway and doubled back.. but the real I guess “confusion” for me is why am I seeing Waymo cars in numbers all around the campus and area self driving alone with Zero issues in large crowds? My truck would have crashed 3 times and these things seem all good with no one inside them?

We already beat this to death, and people either accepted or rejected LIDAR as the answer to your question

 

[Jack27]

We already beat this to death, and people either accepted or rejected LIDAR as the answer to your question

Dang I missed it all but I feel you. Every time I see a “is my voucher good for 1 time use “ thread I’m like ok another one

 

[SeattleBeast]

I mean I guess but I thought my boy Elon did also ? I just saw robots and ish doing paper rock scissors

Uhh... you do know those were controlled remotely by humans, right?

 

[Jack27]

Uhh... you do know those were controlled remotely by humans, right?

Aaaa I do understand that a human can take over the car yes however the reaction time and attentiveness involved in preventing some of the situations I was in with my truck wouldn’t of been possible in preventing the accident from a remote location

 

[SeattleBeast]

Aaaa I do understand that a human can take over the car yes however the reaction time and attentiveness involved in preventing some of the situations I was in with my truck wouldn’t of been possible

No, dude, the robots were controlled by humans. They're just fancy electronic puppets.

 

[Jack27]

No, dude, the robots were controlled by humans. They're just fancy electronic puppets.

Oooo I thought you were commenting on the cars yeah I think I realize the robots were controlled by humans
Orrrr were they ?? Dunnn dun dunnnnn

 

[Crissa]

Uhh... you do know those were controlled remotely by humans, right?

In that, there's a Human making sure it doesn't screw up.

Robots are just fancy electronic puppets. Why this upsets you - when that wasn't even possible a few years ago - is baffling.

-Crissa

 

[Jack27]

In that, there's a Human making sure it doesn't screw up.

Robots are just fancy electronic puppets. Why this upsets you - when that wasn't even possible a few years ago - is baffling.

-Crissa

I’m all in for 20/30k as he said but for sure still triple locking my door when I sleep. Just something about it still scares me ! But it’s worth it mowing my lawn and making me cocktails !!

 

[igs]

I mean I guess but I thought my boy Elon did also ? I just saw robots and ish doing paper rock scissors

Waymo has remote operators just like Elons robots.