Tesla V4 Supercharger designed station submitted for permitting - in Arizona

[Ogre]

First plans for a Tesla V4 Supercharger designed station submitted for permitting. Things I noticed right off.

• PV panels planned.
• Megapack is part of the design which, combined with PV might make this grid independent or at least detachable.
• Trailer parking is part of the game plan (Cybertruck FTW).

 

[CyberGus]

No pull-thru stalls…!

 

[RandyS]

Grid independent? With 42 v4 supercharger stalls @ up to 350 kW each? I don't see how that could happen...I guess it depends on the battery size, but it doesn't look that big on the drawing...

 

[egandalf]

No pull-thru stalls…!

This looks like "Trailer Parking Only" to me.

 

[CyberGus]

oh we’re only selling 1 Cybertruck then ok cool

 

[rr6013]

Innovative “pre-assembled“ supercharger!

Tesla are going P&P at SC level. When fail strikes it can swap out and keep charging plugging in a new pre-assembled SC. While the failed unit goes away!

Slick operation

 

[egandalf]

oh we’re only selling 1 Cybertruck then ok cool

I only need one.

 

[Crissa]

The real question is, what portion of peak traffic is trailers? What portion of traffic is Tesla pulling trailers?

-Crissa

 

[egandalf]

The real question is, what portion of peak traffic is trailers? What portion of traffic is Tesla pulling trailers?

-Crissa

Yep. A solid follow-up question is how fast are the V4 chargers going to be? I mean, if the CT is 10-80 in 15 minutes you could reasonably have 2-3 trucks per hour going through.

 

[android04]

Grid independent? With 42 v4 supercharger stalls @ up to 350 kW each? I don't see how that could happen...I guess it depends on the battery size, but it doesn't look that big on the drawing...

I agree that the megapack doesn't look that big on the drawing. They are usually a shipping container filled with batteries, electronics, and cooling. Also, the megapack will mainly serve to balance the load on the grid and to store energy from the PV system.

 

[CyberGus]

The real question is, what portion of peak traffic is trailers? What portion of traffic is Tesla pulling trailers?

-Crissa

Well, somebody’s gotta tow all those busted Mach-E’s

 

[rr6013]

The real question is, what portion of peak traffic is trailers? What portion of traffic is Tesla pulling trailers?

-Crissa

Tesla doesn’t have data. Its not flying blind into trailers without having a handle on growth in trailers or they’ll just be charger constrained again if they force Cybertrucks to unhook, disconnect, drop trailers to charge. Right? So it can’t wait for data.

Its building out network. They’re peddling as fast as they can. Superchargers got behind Tesla charging demand. BUT, critically,Tesla opened its charging network.

SO Tesla need to get on problems it can see coming. That would be a Real Estate, Architect, EE, Traffic Eng. and local zoning Team managing complicated builds. They need JV or buy into Flying J in the western US. That buys valuable time Tesla could use as trailers grow onto Cybertrucks(my guess 2% O.A.)

Every Supercharger location has to treat trailers as a single Tesla that is XX feet in length. Worst case scenario for high traffic, high volume locations will see a lot of (&*% ‘ing trailers.( my wild ass guess 7% peak) Places like Southern Utah, California Hwy#1 and AZ where snowbirds flock. And trailers mean those Teslas are charging longer, charging harder DC and throttling its energy load factor on lesser Teslas charging. You’re right it needs to know. But it doesn’t until too late. So 3X overbuild the network. Holy Shit! Yeah Batman Tesla’s gotta get on some locations ahead of what Cybertruck is unleashing.

THUS right behind Cybertruck Semi will be increasing SC Semi-demand in the I-80 corridor between Reno and SLC, Vegas-to-Riverside corridors. So Tesla has its hands full getting a handle, then getting ahead of charging, charging networks, trailer chargers, and Semi charging which share identical needs with tow trailer charging.
Tl;dr?

 

[charliemagpie]

For those who regularly use trailers, they would know their routines and where the proper charging locations are.

Besides... if Tesla has an app, every location you are taken to will have a drive through.

Tesla will ensure the spread of pull throughs to make the experience seamless.

I say this confidently, because the person or team who are good enough to get the planning job, would be smart enough to consider this.

I love all this stuff... its little pieces of a much bigger picture. Just like working at the sharp end of the computer industry in 1980.

A new frontier had begun to open for everybody, and look where it is today. The transition to clean energy, transportation, space exploration, is taking us on a new ride.

 

[Ogre]

Grid independent? With 42 v4 supercharger stalls @ up to 350 kW each? I don't see how that could happen...I guess it depends on the battery size, but it doesn't look that big on the drawing...

Certainly not if they are at 100% utilization.

Megapack is 3 Megawatts. That’s enough to charge 37 Model Ys.

 

[greggertruck]

The real question is, what portion of peak traffic is trailers? What portion of traffic is Tesla pulling trailers?

-Crissa

I find it humorous the vast majority of guys that buy trucks to drive to their little office jobs doing mortgage or whatever. Only thing the truck ever tows is their disfunctional marriage and the high payment he has on his Laramie.

anyway, I don’t think most men tow. I use my bed everyday / every other day for work. I maybe tow 1 time a month avg.

I find the tow battery restriction humorous but valid. Even Tesla shared some stat slide about how many people DONT tow.