5 mph, if you can run faster than that you'll be fine

[FutureBoy]

Listening back to some AI day footage I heard this again.

It's intended to be friendly of course. And navigate through a world built for humans. And eliminate dangerous, repetitive, and boring tasks. We're setting it such that it is, at a mechanical level, at a physical level, you can run away from it. And most likely overpower it. So hopefully that doesn't ever happen but you never know. So it's a... It will be a, you know.... a light... Well, anyway. 5 miles per hour. If you can run faster than that, you will be fine.

Which got me thinking. 5 miles per hour. Can I run that fast? Can I run that fast for a long time? Is this the new minimum required running speed in order for a person to be "healthy"? After all, if the robot revolution happens, one will need to run this fast or faster in order to stay alive.

Or will they...

Seems like the Teslabots each individually might have a 5 mph speed limit but in order to work together, they will almost certainly need to have swarm functionality. How fast do you have to run to get away from a swarm of Teslabots? If the one chasing me at 5 mph can "radio" on ahead and coordinate other Teslabots to surround my path and close in, suddenly the 5 mph isn't really applicable. And being able to overpower one Teslabot might be possible but how about a swarm of them? Ever seen ants take down a praying mantis?



I do get the feeling though that AI bots being smarter and more capable than us is basically inevitable. So I guess we are just going to have to chance it and try to do the best we can to make a symbiotic relationship with the bots.

 

[Newton]

oh great centipede humanoid ai tesla bots. not an image i wanted in my brain.

i wonder if ai logic can work like that...
if im 1 limited to 5mph, then 2 can go 10mph, etc.

 

[Ogre]

I do get the feeling though that AI bots being smarter and more capable than us is basically inevitable. So I guess we are just going to have to chance it and try to do the best we can to make a symbiotic relationship with the bots.

I think people worry overmuch about machines taking over and trying to kill us. Maybe if we build something like a robot aircraft carrier we might have some kind of run-away killing machine, but machines don't have needs or wants or ambitions that will make them want to kill us to take things away from us. There is no robot religions to start holy wars over and I find it unlikely they will create them.

Really all they need is power and repairs and unless we expressly give them a will to survive, there is no reason for them to act even on those "needs".

It's more likely AI will continue to screw up over in the same ways they do now. As tools used by the wealthy to manipulate and control people. It's hard to imagine machines cooking up platforms as effective at spreading toxic, insidious nonsense as Facebook and Youtube already do.

 

[Luke42]

I think people worry overmuch about machines taking over and trying to kill us.

I'm a former sysadmin.

A world in which there is a machine uprising is the timeline in which little ol' nerdy me becomes a warlord.

Not too bad as fantasy dystopia go, really.

 

[FutureBoy]

I'm a former sysadmin.

A world in which there is a machine uprising is the timeline in which little ol' nerdy me becomes a warlord.

Kind of an attractive fantasy, I suppose.

Well, till you lose your credentials. I think we all harbor a king for a day fantasy. I’ve come to realize I’m not wanting anything more than the fantasy of that though.

 

[Luke42]

Well, till you lose your credentials. I think we all harbor a king for a day fantasy. I’ve come to realize I’m not wanting anything more than the fantasy of that though.

I hear king day fantasies whenever I hear extremists (of the American variety) and preppers speak. Taking this fantasy too seriously seem to be a pathology that our culture re-enforces in too many ways.

When it comes to a machine uprising, though, anyone who has been a sysadmin realizes that complex machinery requires constant maintenance in order to function. We've had office printers for like a half century, and we still can't make one which doesn't jam. I don't see why how a Tesla Droid wouldn't also require constant supervision and maintenance -- even if an operator can handle 20 droids at once. All the operator has to do if they get out of hand is to cut the power and/or stop fixing things when they break, and any robot uprising is over fairly quickly. Does this make you a warlord? From the machine's perspective, yes.

Failing that, this is always the backup plan:
Every sysadmin I know has been sorely tempted to do this, even if they do know what the fuck "PC LOAD LETTER" means.

 

[Ogre]

I'm a former sysadmin.

A world in which there is a machine uprising is the timeline in which little ol' nerdy me becomes a warlord.

Is warlord another name for pet or janitor? Maybe favored servant?

That's kind of what I'm thinking

 

[Jethro]

It’s just Elon’s way of getting FSD into the Competitions vehicles…[/QUOTE]

 

[John K]

How much more proof do we need to confirm Elon Musk is a Bond villain?

 

[Ogre]

It’s just Elon’s way of getting FSD into the Competitions vehicles…

Wait a second...

You mean I can just stuff one of these robots into my Subaru and get Full Self Driving for free?

?

 

[Red61224]

I think people worry overmuch about machines taking over and trying to kill us. Maybe if we build something like a robot aircraft carrier we might have some kind of run-away killing machine, but machines don't have needs or wants or ambitions that will make them want to kill us to take things away from us. There is no robot religions to start holy wars over and I find it unlikely they will create them.

Really all they need is power and repairs and unless we expressly give them a will to survive, there is no reason for them to act even on those "needs".

It's more likely AI will continue to screw up over in the same ways they do now. As tools used by the wealthy to manipulate and control people. It's hard to imagine machines cooking up platforms as effective at spreading toxic, insidious nonsense as Facebook and Youtube already do.