Tesla employees are reportedly organizing a union at Gigafactory Berlin

[TruckElectric]

Is Giga Austin next?


https://electrek.co/2021/11/23/tesla-employees-organizing-union-gigafactory-berlin/

 

[Bill906]

Hopefully Austin organizes before I buy my truck. Then I can get the Union Made tax break!!!!

 

[Crissa]

Alas, as someone pointed out, the stock options change what kind of union it would be, and they wouldn't qualify as a union under the law.

-Crissa

 

[Ogre]

A Workers Council is not the same as a US union.

By law, there is really no way Tesla can get around having a Workers Council in Germany.

Unlike in the US, the workers council does not bargain for compensation or benefits. It is more about ensuring safe working conditions, worker privacy and monitoring, and organizational changes. The Workers Council gets representation on Board of Tesla’s German organization.

Not a Union. Similar but quite different.

 

[Crissa]

Unions come in all shapes and sizes. Or at least should.

Our laws make things like workers' councils - which are not much more than a watchdog group - a fringe that can be messed with by the employer instead of an easy bar.

-Crissa

 

[Quicksilver]

A former Public Affairs Officer I worked with owned a large company that did business with the US government.
They had a contract to supply H&K rifles to US forces.
In order to do business in Germany the company had to open a office and hire two people.
The contract was met and they closed the office.
The German government made him pay them two years salary even though they know the jobs were temporary.
It seems like Germany is not very business friendly.

 

[Luke42]

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It seems like Germany is not very business friendly.

And, yet, Germany is an economic powerhouse with one of the largest export-economies on earth.

I humbly suggest that the real world is not following the predictions of your model.

 

[CyberGus]

Unions come in all shapes and sizes. Or at least should.

Our laws make things like workers' councils - which are not much more than a watchdog group - a fringe that can be messed with by the employer instead of an easy bar.

-Crissa

Everything in America is designed to be adversarial: governments, politics, the legal system, and culturally as well. In order for me to win, you must lose.

I'd like to think we can do better, but it's ingrained at an institutional level.

 

[Cybertruck Hawaii]

Elon should have built every Giga Factory in China to avoid the red tape. Forget about helping the local economy around the factory if they don’t want to cooperate.

 

[Cybertruck Hawaii]

Unions come in all shapes and sizes. Or at least should.

Our laws make things like workers' councils - which are not much more than a watchdog group - a fringe that can be messed with by the employer instead of an easy bar.

-Crissa

Wall Street has a union. It’s called the lobbyist.

 

[John K]

A former Public Affairs Officer I worked with owned a large company that did business with the US government.
They had a contract to supply H&K rifles to US forces.
In order to do business in Germany the company had to open a office and hire two people.
The contract was met and they closed the office.
The German government made him pay them two years salary even though they know the jobs were temporary.
It seems like Germany is not very business friendly.

If they also specified who the two employees were to be, that was a bribe.