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Actually ~11%. And the percentage here not as important as actual range lost.
BTW, do you know how batteries degrade? In next 100k miles the battery will lost almost 30% more of what was original, or around 200 miles range left.
Basically, ~8 years old tesla will have only 50% of original range. And then you need to replace a battery pack (for $$$$) or enjoy leftovers.

Tim you will probably be slightly right while old battery teck is phased out through ageing.

But battery tech has changed. You are miles off.
 

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Tim you will probably be slightly right while old battery teck is phased out through ageing.

But battery tech has changed. You are miles off.
Not really off. Don’t forget it is 2018 model 3, not 2022-2023 with 4680 pack.
for those we have no data yet.
what i would do - is usethis pack as hard as i can and get it replaced under warranty.
 

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Battery degradation slows over time. Be gentle, and you'll be more likely to be above than below the red line.

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Nice chart but the problem here is there’s chart for model S/X data. Do you know what difference is? Size of the battery pack (90kw and UP, not 72 kw usable from 84 pack). As larger battery pack - as less you use it from edge to edge so basically you keep working area between 40-70%%. As less pack you have your range is between 10-90(100)%% wich leads to faster battery degradation. And do not forget about supercharging while on a road trip.
Please, invest some of your priceless time and educate yourself about batteries and how they work at best and worst scenarios.
 

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Actually ~11%. And the percentage here not as important as actual range lost.
BTW, do you know how batteries degrade? In next 100k miles the battery will lost almost 30% more of what was original, or around 200 miles range left.
Basically, ~8 years old tesla will have only 50% of original range. And then you need to replace a battery pack (for $$$$) or enjoy leftovers.
That is inconsistent with what I’ve seen/ heard from owners of older Teslas.

Do you have some stats from something?
 

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That is inconsistent with what I’ve seen/ heard from owners of older Teslas.

Do you have some stats from something?
It's also inconsistent with the data shown in Optiwatt, which derives its stats from actual cars in real world usage.
 

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Nice chart but the problem here is there’s chart for model S/X data. Do you know what difference is? Size of the battery pack (90kw and UP, not 72 kw usable from 84 pack). As larger battery pack - as less you use it from edge to edge so basically you keep working area between 40-70%%. As less pack you have your range is between 10-90(100)%% wich leads to faster battery degradation. And do not forget about supercharging while on a road trip.
Please, invest some of your priceless time and educate yourself about batteries and how they work at best and worst scenarios.
This is extremely disingenuous.

There is no evidence to support your accusations and there is potential evidence against it.

The data that is available is a different battery 18650 (model s) vs 2170 (model 3) but both from the same company. The 2170s are newer and potentially more reliable, so while there is evidence that Model S does not degrade anywhere near 50% capacity after 8 years and almost none below 80%. You can't say the model 3 will be as good/better but I think its fair to say its more likely to be similar then its to be drastically different either positive or negative.

8 years or 120,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.

Granted the warranty only goes to 120,000 miles but 8 years and its expected to be over 70% which is more evidence to the fact that either Tesla does not know its own batteries and plan to spend lots of money replacing them or your 50% number is even more unlikely. Time will tell as more and more M3's start to move out of warranty and data is captured like the Model S.
 

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High mileage depends on what type of driving that you are doing. Freeway driving hardly wears the vehicle. Stop and go, city driving just kills the car.
 
 
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