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  1. Challeco

    Why is Tesla in the lead in for the article. Two adults survive Tesla plunges 250 feet off California Cliff?

    There is also the Hot springs hotel just outside of Union. It is still in the process of upgrades by a new owner and management. But, they have a theater, bar, and lodging... and it has been on the "Most haunted" list for quite a while being an historic sanitarium/hospital/therapeutic hot...
  2. Challeco

    Why is Tesla in the lead in for the article. Two adults survive Tesla plunges 250 feet off California Cliff?

    Let me know when you go. Maybe I'll come down from the Blue mountains and compare with you. I driven most of the Oregon coast down to Northern California, but only glimpsed the California coast as a kid.
  3. Challeco

    Why is Tesla in the lead in for the article. Two adults survive Tesla plunges 250 feet off California Cliff?

    I grew up running across it as a kid in the 70s. The northern part in Lincoln city and Newport. A different stretch but just a magnificent.
  4. Challeco

    Why is Tesla in the lead in for the article. Two adults survive Tesla plunges 250 feet off California Cliff?

    I just watched a report that the driver has been arrested for attempted murder. The authorities have probable cause that this was intentional. So... This is a feel good story where Tesla engineers are heroic designers of exceptionally safe cars.
  5. Challeco

    Why is Tesla in the lead in for the article. Two adults survive Tesla plunges 250 feet off California Cliff?

    Until the temperature drops to the frost point. Then, stay off the roads!! When I was there they lost their ever loving minds.
  6. Challeco

    Power plants vs batteries

    My understanding is that peaker plants are the problem child of the energy production world. They are the most expensive to operate, potentially the most polluting, but the balance the grid needs for consumer variations. Battery banks are a perfect alternative for peaker plants. The batteries...
  7. Challeco

    Gas Prices

    I cannot accept any "drill more" excuses when the trash fuel they pass off as diesel costs more than premium. I grew up KNOWING that diesel/stove oil/farm fuel was 1/3 the price of gasoline because it was the dregs of the refinery process that was barely fit for stationary boilers and farm...
  8. Challeco

    Elon Musk Financial Times Interview (Includes some Cybertruck content)

    Fair point. My understanding is the Cybertruck is supposed to be the next iteration toward full automation/fewest parts/minimal human interaction build similar to the models 3 and Y. The models S and X are still relatively hand built.
  9. Challeco

    Buggrit, Across the Board Tesla Price Increases

    If you can swing the financing, order the model Y, pay the fee and wait for the delivery date confirmation before you sell the Jeep. Then, use the jeep proceeds to pay down the Tesla loan instead of as a down payment. That way you can still enjoy the jeep's utility until the model Y is closer...
  10. Challeco

    Buggrit, Across the Board Tesla Price Increases

    With what I have experienced in maintenance costs, fuel, and just regular pain-in-the-ass'ery with my I.C.E. vehicles compared to my Model 3, I am still fully in the "take my money" mode. I reserved a dual motor CT, but if I have the opportunity and the credit, I am upgrading. I want the...
  11. Challeco

    Tesla’s reverse on battery cells signals shift for electric vehicles

    I am not sure where this article is going? Honestly, I struggled with the grammar. Yes, Lithium Iron Phosphate is an older technology. However, it hasn't been available due to patent concerns. Until, as the article states, this year when the patent expires. The chemistry, especially if...
  12. Challeco

    Trailer towing Rivian test, range and regen resulting in Rockies

    I understood your point initially. My opinion is tangential to yours, not opposite. Rivian is a poor example of a truck. It was designed as a toy with a bed. The real world examples of EV trucks are still only speculative. Until we see Tesla's Cybertruck and Semi tractor in real world...
  13. Challeco

    Trailer towing Rivian test, range and regen resulting in Rockies

    Fools? I'm curious how you consider using electric to tow/move material is a fools errand? I understand that heavier payloads, whether towed or as cargo, diminishes range on both ICE and EV. Also, I certainly understand that even Tesla will need to increase the charging network locations in...
  14. Challeco

    Rumors Growing Over Something Coming on 12/9 (Elon/ Numerology/ Split Rumor)

    This whole billionaire/tax issue is a shell game. It bothers me that people oscillate between percentage and absolute to support the FUD. It aggravates me that Mr. Musk is the focus of "pay yer taxes b**ch!" but the other billionaires (I'm looking at you J.B./Doktor Evil) haven't been...
  15. Challeco

    LK Machinery 9000 Ton press - Which Acquired IDRA in 2008

    Yeah, i thought it was Idra. Maybe, since this is a Chinese company, it is for their market. I understand that Tesla is the only foreign company that China has allowed to own their operation outright. All the others are in partnerships with Chinese companies.
  16. Challeco

    EV sales have doubled. Is a ‘tidal wave’ coming?

    Funny how this makes sense. The way Tesla builds is much different than the way legacy automakers build. No Tesla models sitting on lots for bargain hunters. For this matter, the used Tesla market is a premium market too.
  17. Challeco

    These guys have been doing it for 100 years...

    3 hours, 10 hours, 30 hours, days... I don't care about how long it really takes a car to be made. What I noticed is the fear of realization that the VW CEO proclaimed. Regardless of his bravado, the statement and the choir of comments on this string reveal there is an ocean of efficiency...
  18. Challeco

    Nissan joins UN-backed ‘Race to Zero’ campaign, aiming for 100% EVs by… ‘the early 2030s’

    I know we are both Oregon residents, but there are many areas in Oregon, mine specifically, where workers live in surrounding areas and commute far beyond 20 miles in one direction. Yet, the infrastructure in my area is minuscule and sparely available, especially if commuting from smaller towns...
  19. Challeco

    Nissan joins UN-backed ‘Race to Zero’ campaign, aiming for 100% EVs by… ‘the early 2030s’

    This goes to my point. Sure, those mindful of the benefits will stretch to the leaf while the supplies last. But for the complete transition, BEV has to be affordable and have some residual longevity for the resale market to be effective. I trust that Tesla will fill the niche eventually in...
  20. Challeco

    Nissan joins UN-backed ‘Race to Zero’ campaign, aiming for 100% EVs by… ‘the early 2030s’

    IMHO these claims from manufacturers are a joke. The consumers are going to drive the move to EV. The wealthy have the cash but they still only drive one at a time. When someone who works for minimum wage can afford an EV we will see a move to ALL electric vehicles. Until the poor masses can...
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